The communities thoughts on the new rule. [cc]

Constructive Criticism is a new rule that forces people NOT to say hate comments without giving tips on how to improve the game.
If you go to the thread [https://galaxy.click/forum/thread/214]
You will see mixed opinions.

There are dislikes and likes everywhere, I personally agree that this is a terrible change but this thread isn't about that.
Instead, it's about to discuss what you enjoy / don't enjoy about it, You can talk about it here.

LOTS of people enjoyed the new change, but some people don't.
I personally think that by not giving the freedom to judge bad games, You are limiting the things we WANT to say. [of course nothing BAD. you're just limiting our opinion.]
I agree a small bit about the fact that if you pour your heart and soul into a game and someone just says "it sucks ballz!1!!!!1" you will not want to make more.
But as I stated earlier, We cannot share our opinions about games.
Everyone has a different opinion and I think limiting that was a bad change.

What do you think about this new rule?

I've attempted to address this to the best of my ability both in the announcement and in the thread you linked, so I won't go into too much detail here, but the point of it isn't to "silence opinions", it's just to make sure that the opinions shared are productive.

yhvr says:

I've attempted to address this to the best of my ability both in the announcement and in the thread you linked, so I won't go into too much detail here, but the point of it isn't to "silence opinions", it's just to make sure that the opinions shared are productive.

I understand, Make it an option for people's game to remove hate comments instead of just removing it entirely.
That way we can adress our opinions if the owner of the game wants us to, giving the owner & US more freedom with our opinions.

It's an interesting concept, and I'll think about it some. But at the same time, having the implementation of an indicator over the comment box for "⚠️ You can say you hate this game ⚠️" vs. "⚠️ You can not say you hate this game ⚠️" seems like it'd be a little weird to bring attention to? I dunno. I've dealt firsthand with a developer (who I won't name here out of respect) who has received more hate because they have said that they were unable to deal with hate.

In the past I have discussed the concept of a toggle for developers to disable comments sections entirely, but disabling the entire mechanism feels like overkill for a place that could still provide advice, context, or other useful information without praise or hatred for a game.

It's a very complicated issue, and (as to be expected) one that I've never had to deal with--my main specialty is programming, not interpersonal communication :P

I'm wrapping up the (rather stressful) process of college admissions, so I should be able to think about this a bit more in the coming days/weeks. I'll mull over this, talk to some people, and see if I feel like there's a better potential way to resolve this issue. I appreciate both sides of the issue that have been discussed, and hope that I can come up with something that'll make (most/all/more than the current amount of/the current amount of) people happy.

Rename the "comment" section into feedback. This way you can force user to give constructive feedback in a certain way (by "forcing" I mean they have to write in a different way than a comment). Maybe my problem is with the wording, but letting people comment on a game and give them rules how to do that doesnt sit right with me, if you understand what I mean. A feedback is always targeted at a certain person or group, while a comment is just a written or spoken thought you have.

And I think this rule is a bit too protective against "poor" devs. I understand you feel like an artist getting their work judged by others, its a sensible topic. But there will always be someone who doesnt like your stuff. Learn to live with it as every other artist needs to learn this.
If "boring" is a comment that makes you go into depression, its not the commenters fault and there shouldnt be a rule to protect against such a thing.

Then I dont see where this is protecting anyone. If a person wants to be toxic and attack a certain dev, they will find a way. Same goes for people who want to disturb this community. If they see that they can change the whole side with their efforts, they will just get motivated.

To add something really constructive here: try to define what commenting/giving feedback on this side should be. Dont focus on extra rules to get what you want but focus on a mechanic (or something just like wording as I said) to get there. Just to give an example:

If you dont want trolls/toxic people/unconstructive messages dont ask "what are you thinking about this game?"(exact wording of the comment field below a game). If you do a comment like "heck this is boring and awful" is valid even if its not constructive. If a dev owns a right to get only constructive critic is a topic for a philosophical debate- so lets skip this.
But if you write there something like "what do you want to say to the dev about this game?" you are giving the user a certain way to formulate their thoughts without invoking a rule. After a while this kind of communication becomes tradition on this side and will be enforced without a rule. Just try to motivate people more to work with the devs feedback-wise. There will always be an asshole who wants to see everything burning still.

Asenath says:

Rename the "comment" section into feedback. This way you can force user to give constructive feedback in a certain way (by "forcing" I mean they have to write in a different way than a comment). Maybe my problem is with the wording, but letting people comment on a game and give them rules how to do that doesnt sit right with me, if you understand what I mean. A feedback is always targeted at a certain person or group, while a comment is just a written or spoken thought you have.

And I think this rule is a bit too protective against "poor" devs. I understand you feel like an artist getting their work judged by others, its a sensible topic. But there will always be someone who doesnt like your stuff. Learn to live with it as every other artist needs to learn this.
If "boring" is a comment that makes you go into depression, its not the commenters fault and there shouldnt be a rule to protect against such a thing.

Then I dont see where this is protecting anyone. If a person wants to be toxic and attack a certain dev, they will find a way. Same goes for people who want to disturb this community. If they see that they can change the whole side with their efforts, they will just get motivated.

To add something really constructive here: try to define what commenting/giving feedback on this side should be. Dont focus on extra rules to get what you want but focus on a mechanic (or something just like wording as I said) to get there. Just to give an example:

If you dont want trolls/toxic people/unconstructive messages dont ask "what are you thinking about this game?"(exact wording of the comment field below a game). If you do a comment like "heck this is boring and awful" is valid even if its not constructive. If a dev owns a right to get only constructive critic is a topic for a philosophical debate- so lets skip this.
But if you write there something like "what do you want to say to the dev about this game?" you are giving the user a certain way to formulate their thoughts without invoking a rule. After a while this kind of communication becomes tradition on this side and will be enforced without a rule. Just try to motivate people more to work with the devs feedback-wise. There will always be an asshole who wants to see everything burning still.

That's easily resolved with an option to enable feedback or not.

Asenath says:

Maybe my problem is with the wording, but letting people comment on a game and give them rules how to do that doesnt sit right with me, if you understand what I mean.

Rules like this are incredibly common throughout many online communities. It's not trying to force you to change your opinion on a game--in my opinion, it might cause you to evaluate why you dislike a game and what exactly you find unsatisfactory.

And I think this rule is a bit too protective against "poor" devs. I understand you feel like an artist getting their work judged by others, its a sensible topic. But there will always be someone who doesnt like your stuff. Learn to live with it as every other artist needs to learn this.

I understand that artists of all kinds should expect criticism constructive or not, but this is not a public space. This is a curated community, and yhvr has decided that rude and unconstructive messages do not have a place here.

If "boring" is a comment that makes you go into depression, its not the commenters fault and there shouldnt be a rule to protect against such a thing.

I think that the commenter should consider what they are trying to achieve by telling the developer that their game is "boring." What feature of the game is causing them to feel this way? Otherwise, they're just being rude. I like yhvr's response to this thread: https://galaxy.click/forum/thread/223

Then I dont see where this is protecting anyone. If a person wants to be toxic and attack a certain dev, they will find a way. Same goes for people who want to disturb this community. If they see that they can change the whole side with their efforts, they will just get motivated.

As I described, galaxy is sort of a curated community. While the staff cannot control what happens off-site, they can absolutely handle any bad actors that do try to disturb people here. I don't find "adding a rule will only motivate people to break it" a compelling argument for not adding a rule.

If you dont want trolls/toxic people/unconstructive messages dont ask "what are you thinking about this game?"(exact wording of the comment field below a game). If you do a comment like "heck this is boring and awful" is valid even if its not constructive. If a dev owns a right to get only constructive critic is a topic for a philosophical debate- so lets skip this.

I do like the idea of making the comment prompt more personal. However...

But if you write there something like "what do you want to say to the dev about this game?" you are giving the user a certain way to formulate their thoughts without invoking a rule. After a while this kind of communication becomes tradition on this side and will be enforced without a rule. Just try to motivate people more to work with the devs feedback-wise. There will always be an asshole who wants to see everything burning still.

...I disagree with the idea that it would be "enforced without a rule." Is an unwritten rule a rule at all?