Ideas for "Cookie Clicker Rebaked"

Hello incremental players! I'm currently in the "ideas" stage of making a game about Cookie Clicker, but googology-related (rebaked is an obscure cookie clicker Discord term for a repost, which, huh, I guess this game kinda is).

I'm thinking of a system like this:

• A big cookie in the corner (like Cookie Clicker)
• Exponential costs similar to RAM Idle (cost multiplies by 10^constant each time, but each building purchase doubles that building's production)
• Incremental golden cookie upgrades, which drop golden nuggets
• Yarn, which can attract kittens (kittens provide boosts in production and Big Cookie click rate)
• Golden nuggets can be spent to increase golden cookie drops, increase how often they spawn, and provide temporary boosts that can be spent
• Comboing system with minimal/no RNG
• Upgrade ideas, amounts, etc.
• Building ideas/art styles
• Various reset mechanics (ya know, more than 1 reset category)

Also, grandmapocolaypsey thingies and ideas (idk about that yet), as well as crows.
I would also appreciate achievement ideas (Birds Aren't Real, Mi-crow-transactions, geddit?) with wacky quotes and names.

Also curious about what the community things about button styling: do people really like the AD style that much? (Yes, I'm talking about RAM Idle.) Should I pursue a custom-made version of TMT (with minimal changes, I'm just more used to JS coding at this point), go with AD, or kinda rip off Cookie Clicker? I really want that "Big Cookie" style.

Anyone have any ideas? I'm planning to create it over this summer.

starting out the game: 0.5% chance of getting yarn per click, which increases as you progress the game

also if you think you have enough creativity, a new, original layout style for incremental games would be amazing

when you get 1 trillion cookies you can rebirth and get rebirth points with a formula of log(cookies)-11 (which can be upgraded at some point) that can be spent to increase the exponent of how many cookies you get from different things, or to just upgrade things in general

rebirth points is too generic of a name, how about something along the line of heavenly chips. maybe power chips (because they're about exponents)

Sounds pretty good for a start!

Maybe resets need to be at 10^25 or something due to the exponential nature of the game, although I'm not sure. Also, yarn could upgrade your golden cookie spawn.
"power chips" could create "power clicks" (reference to mobile cookie clicker)
reset mechanism costs would effectively be similar to cc with logarithmic growth

Also, maybe there needs to be a sort of "wizardry" mini game similar to CC. Not sure how that's gonna go though...

idk much for ideas for buildings but maybe you could add a mouse (the rodent, not the computer thing) for 30 cookies that produces 0.25 cookies per second with a cost formula of cost=(1.01^base cost)+mousecount(base cost) or something else if that is too fast/slow

Maybe there's a limit to how often golden cookies can spawn which is reached at some point where the golden cookie is permanently on the screen next to the main cookie. and then platinum cookies would spawn afterward instead of golden cookies, platinum cookies drop platinum nuggets which are more powerful than golden nuggets. and the limit of platinum cookie spawn is where it appears next to the other main cookies, then the process repeats with diamond cookies and nuggets which more more powerful than platinum, uranium>diamond, oganesson>uranium and so on
So you would keep accumulating different main cookies, which maybe only the first main cookie and the last two main cookies are shown, and as main cookies disappear again their respective material level would become non-volatile kinda like Omega Layers

balleater2000 says:

idk much for ideas for buildings but maybe you could add a mouse (the rodent, not the computer thing) for 30 cookies that produces 0.25 cookies per second with a cost formula of cost=(1.01^base cost)+mousecount(base cost) or something else if that is too fast/slow

being able to combine a mouse and grandma for a chef that produces an insane amount of cookies (ratatouille reference)

maybe you could add cookie dough as a currency that gets produced once (upgradable) every 10 minutes (upgradable) gives a small boost (upgradable) to cookie generation, and the dough could also be used to upgrade things

hmm can cookie dough go through the same recursion thing as my last post or is that too much recursion...

also is there a specific amount of prestige layers you're aiming for or can I go ham with those too?

you could add farms purchasable with cookies that generate specific bakers, like a mouse farm or a whatever farm (which are also upgradable and able to be purchased multiple times for exponentially increasing cost)

There could also be a small paradigm shift upgrade later in the game which turns the building sequences into AD-like generation
Buildings produce cookies -> Buildings produce the next building down (with balancing that makes this actually an upgrade of course)

@galaxyuser63274, no, nothing in particular. I just want there to be at least 2 layers so the game doesn't become stale at some point (maybe up to 10, I guess). For CC, midgame ends at around 10^60-10^70 cookies (that's a rough estimate), and prestige upgrades become relatively repetitive: this intends to change that.

Here are a few starting ideas:

• Cursors can be upgraded into Big Cookie/GC auto clickers late-game (also mice are unlocked immediately, the upgrades I'm talking about here will cost a lot more than the raw building to prevent the game from getting too complicated)
• Grandmas become chefs and can provide recipes that boost production
• Farms produce cookie dough, maybe a farming mini game
• Mines that can produce gold for golden cookie upgrades (we'll say golden cookies appear once every 2 minutes which can be increased, upgrades may include adding +0.1% chance of getting a golden cookie to spawn when clicking the Big Cookie)
• Factories are the pro version of grandmas (unlocked a lot later)
• Wizardry? Like CC where you can cast spells and stuff
• ...Getting a fractal engine allows you to enter a "paradigm shift mode" or something (this will explode the numbers at a polynomial rate which will require some balancing)
• Kitten upgrades increase yarn production, yarn just does a raw CC production increase for now, maybe at some point there will be more (achievements also increase it, like CC)

Also, other thoughts:

• It's possible there could be "building ascensions" which are mini-ascensions (suppose mines mined platinum instead of gold for special cookies)
• There will be a Max All button for as much stuff as I can think of.
• I'll likely pursue an interface similar to CC but with, like, 2 important sprites: 1 for the big cookie (totally won't copy from CC) and one for the golden cookie (totally won't copy from CC). Just buttons on the right, a text-based upgrade section at the top right, building stuff in the middle (cursor/grandma/farm features or something for now), and the big cookie at the left.
• Also, stuff in the section at the right is in monospace, I'm imagining in AD style
• I might go to the CC discord and start asking permission to use other's upgrade sprites (and maybe use those as building sprites), as there's a LOT of them out there.
• Although, I'm still not sure how the upgrades/resets will work. I'm thinking the resets will reset all previous progress UNTIL fractal engine's paradigm shift mode thing. Would appreciate some help on that. (Maybe like golden cookies, diamond cookies, platinum cookies, etc. until fractal cookies unlock paradigm shift or something)

[I will likely start "work" on it in a few days. Anyway, suggestions (especially on upgrades or cookie concepts) are still appreciated!]

Okay, so here are the base mechanics I'm thinking of (would appreciate help on it):

• Clicking the big cookie gives you 1 cookie (goofy aw gameplay, I know). You can get 25 cookies to make a cursor.
• Cursor cost formula: floor(25×1.05^x+4x), production 1 cookie/second. Cursors increase cookies/click by +1 per cursor.
• Grandma cost formula: floor(100×1.05^x+40x), production 5 cookies/sec.
• Farms cost formula: floor(10000×1.05^x+400x), production 500 cookies/sec.
• Mines cost formula: floor(1000000×1.05^x+4000x), production 25000 cookies/sec.
• And so on. I might rebalance this with the minigames though! I can't really tell right now.

Remember, buildings have a section in the middle like Cookie Clicker, but instead of simple sprites, there are little minigames for each one! (Hopefully. You unlock each one upon getting 100-500 of that building: not sure on the exact number.)

• Cursors each generate 5 power points a second upon unlocking the mini game by getting 100 of that building. Getting 1,000,000 power points allows you to create a power click. You can toggle power clicks, which clicks 20 times a second (spending 1 power click each click) and automatically turns off when you run out of power clicks.) You can also spend power points to improve the effect of clicking the Big Cookie by giving you portions of your CPS. So 10 power clicks gives +0.5% CpS from clicking it, 100 gives you another +0.5% and so on.
• Grandmas can make cookie dough. Each grandma makes 1 cookie dough every second.
• There are apples that you can unlock from farms. Red apples, orange apples, and GOLDEN apples. Red apples increase click rate at a logarithmic rate, orange multiplies CPS of buildings at a logarithmic rate, and yellow boosts special cookie chances.
• Mines produce gold: In the future there might be platinum cookies and other cookies (meaning that if there is a 1% chance of getting a golden cookie, you now get a chance to get a platinum cookie). Mines produce gold, which can be used to either increase its own production or increase golden cookie chance. Gold is essentially it's small little game (imagine Create Incremental's $ upgrades and you can get a good picture)

About golden cookies: The Big Cookie has a 0.1% chance of turning into a golden cookie, which has the power of 2 clicks. Diamond cookies have the power of 5 clicks. Platinum cookies have the power of 10 clicks. Mine gold upgrade X costs ceil(100*2.5^X) gold and each upgrade doubles chance. If chance reaches 100% (where chance is n%, n>=100) then the next special cookie has a chance of n/100% to spawn. So if there's a 200% chance of a golden cookie then the chance of platinum cookie becomes 2%, otherwise, 98% chance of golden cookie. This will likely need balancing to keep idle production still effective, maybe by having an idle-only boost system if you don't click for X seconds.

Achievement list (buildings specifically):

• Cursors [1: I thought it was 15 cookies] [10: Ambidexterity] [100: Inflation] [1000: Of Mice and Men] [10000: Cookie Heroes and Dr. Mine Tree Dimensions Rewritten NG+]
• Grandmas [1: Endgame?] [10: Grandma labor is more experienced anyway] [100: We're running out of space] [1000: Of the ages] [10000: Making dough]
• Farms [1: Normal carrots] [10: Golden carrots] [100: Radium carrots] [1000: Antimatter carrots] [10000: Touch some grass already]
• Mines [1: Is this Minecraft?] [10: A golden idea] [100: Seeing diamonds] [1000: Five miles deep] [10000: Lava-proof mining]

This entire thing is still a WIP so just be aware of that. I might also be adding music from https://opengameart.org OR other free music sites with relatively non-restricting licenses (giving credit is fine with me in this case). Give me your thoughts on music tracks!

Alright so maybe I'm jumping too far ahead with this one, but depending on how fast you want googological growth to go, I would like to name the currency of the second prestige layer something along the lines of...
either Multi Chips (because there'll soon be a few E's in normal cookie count, but below eeee10 before the next prestige layer) or Tetra Chips (because you soon will see an F in normal cookie count)
But I'm not too creative in names so these will just be inspiration

j (put this so that this thread isnt buried)